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            _____________                                 _________
 __________|__  __      /___ __ _    ________ ____________\  _____/___ ________
|   __     : /   /     /    \\ _____|___     |   __      /_\____     /__      /
|    /     :/   /_____/__    \/        /     |    /     /     /     /  /     /
|   /__    /_____________\  \  /      /      |   /__   /___________/  /_____/__
|_____l______/    bds|_______\/      /_______|_____l_____/  acid|_____________/
 -------------------------- /______//__ _ -------------------------------------


                  R E M O R S E ! A S C I I   P R E S E N T S

                         __ _                       _ __
                     _:__\                             /__:_
                      |                                   |
                      :                                   :

                  _ ____.     _ ___    _ _______   _ ________.
                ._\\\   |___._\\\__|_._\\\__    \ _\\\  _    |
                |      _    |        |     /   _/       /    |
                |      /    |        |     \    \_     /     |
             tGø|_____/     |________|______\____/___________|
                     /______|

                      :                                   :
                     _|__                               __|_
                      : /__ _                       _ __\ :


               A   H I R O   P R O T A G O N I S T   E X P O S E
            
                                  C A L L E D

                             ____    ___    ____
                  ....... .__\__ \ ._\ /_ ._\_  \_ ..........
                  :       |    (  \|  \  \|  (___/_         :
                  :  //   l___     \___   \___     \_ ©hP!  :
                  :  /       /______/ /____/ /______/       :
              ____     ___     _____    _____   ____     ____
            ._\_  \_ ._\ /_   /  _ /_. /  _ /_._\_  \_ ._\_  \_
            |  (_ _/_|  \  \_/   (   |/   (   |  (___/_|  (_ _/_
            l___/    \___   \_    ___l     ___l___     \___/    \_
               /______/ /____/____\ \______\     /______/ /______/
                  .          ____    ___    ____            .
                  :       .__\__ \ ._\ /_ ._\_  \_          :
                  :...... |    (  \|  \  \|  (___/_ ........:
                          l___     \___   \___     \_
                             /______/ /____/ /______/


                         D I E   R I P P E R   D I E !



 I've never made a file_id.diz for the group called CLASS before, I wouldn't
 even know who they are. But let's just suppose for a minute I was going to
 do one. It might look a little like this:


     _\______  _____ _ _______ ______  ______/_
      .\ ___/_.\  _/____  _  /.\ ___/_.\ ___/___
      |  |    |   |   _/  _  _|_\__  _|_\__   _/
    ::|  |    |   |   |   |  \_   |  \_   |   |::
     _|  l   _|   l   |   |   |   l   |   l   |
     \____   \_____   |___|   |____   |____   |
    [©hP!\____l===\___l===l____/==\___l===\___l=]


 A simple and straight-forward example of a style of mine everyone became
 familiar with in my ascii collections 'In the Mouth of Madness' (R-ITMOM.TXT)
 and 'To Serve Man' (R-TSM.TXT). Now consider the following if you would,
 "made" by Feral of NoName (F3-CLASS.ASC - NoName pack #10):


    _\_________Ö____ __ ____Ü____________________/_
     _\   _____    /____\_  _   __  ______  ____/__
     |   |    /_   |    Ö_  _   |____   /_____   /_
     °   |    .|   |   .|   |    ;    |  .|   þ|  .|
    _|   l    :|   :   :|   Ý    :    õ  :|    |  :|
    \_____    :|___    :|___|    |___    :|___    :|
    -----\\____i -\\____| -\\___.: -\\____õ -\\____l
           c       L       A       S       S
     Ä -Ä---Ä Ä----- -----Ä- - -Ä Ä(fERAL/nONAME)--


 Forgoing the fact that it's too wide for a file_id.diz (it's 48 columns), uses
 control characters ("" and "Ü" both of which could cause strange results if
 they were fed through a bbs's internal file_id scanner), take a long hard look
 at it. Or better yet, look at this simplified version:


    _\______________    _________________________/_
     _\   _____    /____\_  _   __  ______  ____/__
     |   |    /_   |        _    |____   /_____   /_
     |   |    .|   |   .|   |    |    |  .|    |  .|
    _|   |    :|   |   :|   |    |    |  :|    |  :|
    \_____    :|___    :|___|    |___    :|___    :|
          \____|   \____|   \____|   \____|   \____|


 And while you're at it, consider the shading effects I used in the following
 logo (from R-TSM.TXT):


             __/\__  _/\____ _/\_               .___ _/\____     .__
         ___.\ ___/_.\ _\_ /.\ _/__  _/\___  _/\|  /.\ _\_ /.__/\| /.
        (___)  \_   |   _   |  ___/_.\ ___/ .\  |   |   _   |\   |  |
        |   |   |   |   |   |  |    | ___)__|   |   |   |   |_\___  |
        |   |   |  .|   |  .|  |   .|  |    |   |  .|   |  .|.   |  | ©hP!
      __|  .|   |  .|   |  .|  |   .|  |   .|   |  .|   |  .|.   |  |__
     \\__  .|   |  :|   |  :|  |   :|  |   .|   |  :|   |  :|:   |  __//
        |  :|   |  :|   |  :|  |   :|  |   :|  / \ :|   |  :|:   |  |
        |  :|___.   |___|   |__.    |  |   :|___.   |___|   |    .__|
        |   |   `---'   `---'  `----|__.    |   `---'   `---'----'
        `---'                          `----'


 Begining to see the picture? But wait, let's take a look at a technique
 Whodini developed a while ago:


      _________________  ____ ____  ________  _________________ .________
    ._\\__    /    __//_|    |    |_\\_     |_\\__    /\   __//_|    __//_
   _|    7  _/|    _)   |   \_/   |    |    |    7  _/|_\___    |    _)   |
    _    _    |    7    |    |    |    |    |    _    |    7    |    7    |_
    |    7    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    7    |    |    |    |    _
    |    |    |_   J    |    |    |    J    |    |    |_   l    |_   l    |
    l____|    |/________l____|    |_________l____|    |/________J/________J
      wH0l____J<R            l____J              l____J


 Of particular interest for us in this case is Whodini's use of "l" and "J",
 which if you go back to Feral's "original" you'll see running rampant in
 style.. if not specific character (for you amiga peeps, he's using an IBM
 high-bit character that looks like a J without the line on the top).

 So all this sparks the question of where does style influence become style
 ripping? Personally, I'ld say Feral's "original" outlined here clearly
 crosses the line.

 I'ld never claim to have invented the ":" vertical line shading technique,
 that credit goes to Piromaniak and/or Tinyz (they were the first I ever saw
 use it), but since we know so few of today's newbies have any idea who either
 either PMK or TZ is, it's clear where that came from. Feral's font also just
 happens to bear a striking resemblance to that old style of mine, and it's
 quite easy to see he ripped my "_\" and "/_" point shading for the top ends
 of the C and S (for examples of this look in R-TSM.TXT - it's everywhere in
 that particular colly).

 It's not often that I feel motivated to do one of these files, despite the
 fact I see alot of rips floating around out there (especially those of old
 Lord Nitrogen styles and Megga Hertz's style), but this little disection
 was prompted by the fact that I had already caught Feral in a small rip
 (which he didn't release as far as I know) to which he replied he'd be
 keeping his shit more original in the future. So much for that...


 I'm more than willing to hear any explaination Feral might have for this,
 although I honestly believe he can provide no rational explaination for
 the proof I've presented here.




                   D E A T H   T O   T H E   R I P P E R S !


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                :$l l$SS$ $$`d$*#$b':$l       too much posse.
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          K E E P   I T   R E A L . .   W E ' R E   W A T C H I N G .





@BEGIN_FILE_ID.DIZ... DIE RIPPER DIE ....... 04-06-97 ..
:         ____  ____                 :
_________ \_  \/  _/________         :
  _     /__/  \/  \_  _   /     ___  :
  \  __/ _`---/_______\ _/___ _/ _`---
--/___\  \___/       _/    _/_\  \___/
:      \--'____\__\  \_    __  \--'  :
: pk/kts   \    \_`--------\____/    :
:___________\ - _/____               :
:\_  /  _  |  -  \_  / REMORSE 1981  .
:./ /\__/  ______// /............. .::
  \/   /___|      \/
                      Feral tarnishes
 the last NoName pack by ripping Hiro
   and Whodini.. read it all here!

@END_FILE_ID.DIZ




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